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>>> The rate of 11 out of 100,000 persons per year is the suicide rate for the population at large.
The suicide risk for those treated with the SSRIs - Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors such as Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Celexa is 718 per 100,100 according to the aforementioned scientific research (which cover the time span of 15 years) completed in 2000. If we divide 718 by 11 the figure we get is 66.18. Your wonder drugs Zoloft increases suicide risk by at least 66.18 times in the long term use. Good luck and get well soon. <<< Alper, those stats you gave are extremely distorted and MISLEADING. Here are some more RELEVANT stats: 15-20 percent of people with untreated Major Depression commit suicide. That equals 15,000 to 20,000 per 100,000. Antidepressant medications, such as SSRI's are usually prescribed as treatment for Major Depression. YOU said that 718 out of 100,000 people on such medication commit suicide. Based on those figures, antidepressant medications DECREASE the suicide risk by 96-97%. So I thank you, Alper, for helping to provide depressed people with another reason to comply with prescribed antidepressant meds. Rating :
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If you look through the message thread, it should be obvious that Ms Numbers had repeatedly provoked and tempted me into...
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28-Jun-06 11:35 am | ||
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You may be right. I shouldn't have responded to her. I wonder if kitarian and ms.numbers are the same person. Why else w...
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28-Jun-06 11:40 am | ||
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To attribute your inability to refrain from name calling to me is ridiculous. You are responsible for what you write.
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28-Jun-06 01:36 pm | ||
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It turns out that the "facts" you mentioned here ARE in conflict with things I've been "conditioned to believe." That *...
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kuegshusreuh | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 01:36 pm | ||
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"I wonder if kitarian and ms.numbers are the same person." Of course we are. In fact, I have many id's on this board. C...
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28-Jun-06 01:37 pm | ||
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"Inability" to refrain from name-calling?? I willfully CHOSE to call you a freak and I take full responsibility for doi...
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kuegshusreuh | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 01:40 pm | ||
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Yeah, I figured. But frankly, who really cares? As for "guessing" who your other id's are, why don't you ask the person...
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28-Jun-06 01:44 pm | ||
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"Yeah, I figured. But frankly, who really cares?" If you don't care, then just don't reply. You've shown you care by re...
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28-Jun-06 02:06 pm | ||
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"The drugs you've gained dependency, on the other hand, will irreversibly wreck your mental as well as physical health s...
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28-Jun-06 02:07 pm | ||
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I just added another rec to your post. Good one!
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regener8r | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 03:20 pm | ||
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Awwww....c'mon now #'s. Your going to start WWIII. LOL
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regener8r | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 03:21 pm | ||
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Al, Are you a Scientologist by any chance?
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regener8r | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 03:23 pm | ||
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K, Whoever started this thread hasn't posted in well over a year.....at least not under that ID. Gen
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regener8r | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 03:25 pm | ||
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Al, You have not disclosed anything persoanl...nor should you. However, if you have published articles, what's the har...
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regener8r | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 03:35 pm | ||
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Alpo, you cannot possibly be as dense as this last post of yours suggests, so I conclude that you are playing dumb on pu...
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28-Jun-06 03:42 pm | ||
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My name is 117. My surname is 5321. My job is to detect crap, and from your first post the crap detector sounded. Alpo,...
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28-Jun-06 03:45 pm | ||
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Hey, are you me?
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28-Jun-06 03:45 pm | ||
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I see we have someone here who doesn't believe in the medical (organic, genetic, etc.) existence of schizophrenia. Why ...
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bowdoup3 | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 09:26 pm | ||
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Alperr, You're saying that the abrupt withdrawal of the meds mimic psychosis. If he didn't have the SYMPTOMS and diagn...
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regener8r | Rate it | 28-Jun-06 10:39 pm | ||
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The doofus puppet dangles helplessly.
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28-Jun-06 11:19 pm | ||
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Alper, I've seen several programs of patients diagnosed with Schizophrenia. It's a scary and unpredictable disease! ...
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regener8r | Rate it | 29-Jun-06 10:06 am | ||
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I thought I've seen that symptom list before. But I recall them saying that "YES" responses mean that a person might not...
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meberwiht | Rate it | 30-Jun-06 11:16 am | ||
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Maybe we can use type II diabetes in comparison. If one is prone to type II diabetes and modifies one's diet accordingl...
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duke_nu_kem | Rate it | 30-Jun-06 12:59 pm | ||
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Hey, thanks for noting that connection between diabetes and depression, and thyroid condition. We are still discovering...
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duke_nu_kem | Rate it | 30-Jun-06 01:12 pm | ||
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Alpo, the first step in dealing with your illness is admitting it. Try talking to a professional about your paranioa. Ma...
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30-Jun-06 03:05 pm | ||
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Verrrry well said, Duke! You said it much more intelligently than I could! thanks :) Gen
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regener8r | Rate it | 30-Jun-06 04:27 pm | ||
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I used my health issues to demonstrate what causes MY depression. You're right in the respect that if one hormone is ...
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regener8r | Rate it | 30-Jun-06 04:51 pm | ||
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Holistic medicine has been practiced for thousands of years, with the Ayurvedic traditions found in India and Asia (Ayur...
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duke_nu_kem | Rate it | 30-Jun-06 06:23 pm | ||
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Al, You are entirely correct when you say that withdrawal of these drugs can be danerous, which is precisely WHY the w...
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regener8r | (1 Rating) | 1-Jul-06 10:06 am | ||
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Happy Fourth! http://www.cyberfireworks.com/
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regener8r | (1 Rating) | 1-Jul-06 10:57 am | ||
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"The explanation is that whenever you attempt to quit them you experience the withdrawals of these drugs as you don't no...
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2-Jul-06 09:03 pm | ||
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Of course the recs don't belong to you. They belong to us, and you still haven't figure out what they mean, little guy. ...
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2-Jul-06 09:05 pm | ||
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Alpo, you've demonstrated an inability to present evidence for your ill-formed hypotheses. Ergo, you must have little or...
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2-Jul-06 09:07 pm | ||
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Re: Facts about schizophrenia
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alice_768594 | No ratings | 3-Jul-06 11:33 am | ||
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I'm certain that you'd rub your hands with great glee upon reading that, prior to the discovery of antibiotics and even ...
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duke_nu_kem | (1 Rating) | 4-Jul-06 04:10 pm | ||
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With all the testimonials that have appeared on this thread and others, one could hardly agree with your position that t...
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duke_nu_kem | Rate it | 4-Jul-06 10:30 pm | ||
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Alpo knows the damage he's experienced from his long-run chronic problem. Stay right where you are Alpo - we'll continue...
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5-Jul-06 01:11 pm | ||
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the little guy: The puppet dangles, the puppeteers chuckle. Source: Members of the Board, July 5, 2006.
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5-Jul-06 11:19 pm | ||
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Yet the causitive link has not been established. All that has been proven is a corollary bewteen ...
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duke_nu_kem | (1 Rating) | 6-Jul-06 12:32 pm | ||
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see for yourself ...
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6-Jul-06 02:43 pm | ||
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As someone who's worked in the mental health system, most completed suicides I knew of involved people who had dropped o...
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alice_768594 | (1 Rating) | 7-Jul-06 03:54 pm | ||
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Your only offer is to discredit the segment of the mental health field that uses medication to support rehabilitation. ...
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duke_nu_kem | (1 Rating) | 8-Jul-06 12:50 am | ||
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Alper, you obviously have never lived with a person with schizophrenia and never had to deal with a schizophrenic family...
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bowdoup3 | (1 Rating) | 9-Jul-06 12:19 am | ||
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No she's not. I am.
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10-Jul-06 10:10 am | ||
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You still haven't answered my question on the other thread. When are you going to answer it??
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meberwiht | (1 Rating) | 10-Jul-06 05:21 pm | ||
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the little guy, You spread crap and have no credibility, but you are comfortably under our control. You cannot escape f...
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11-Jul-06 12:19 pm | ||
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Alper, I don't buy your explanation as to why you see "no need" to show us an original copy of Dr. Arif Khan's work. Yo...
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alice_768594 | Rate it | 11-Jul-06 04:04 pm | ||
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BG, I fully agree with your post. Antidepressant medications do carry the risk of precipitating a manic episode, partic...
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alice_768594 | Rate it | 11-Jul-06 04:18 pm | ||
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>>> But do you know how many teenagers, children, young people, people from minority groups in the world suffer because ...
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kuegshusreuh | (1 Rating) | 12-Jul-06 10:44 am | ||
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Sounds like a fun group. Can I join?
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meberwiht | Rate it | 12-Jul-06 05:01 pm |
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